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Kim France of Lucky Magazine and Girls of a Certain Age

“Lucky” once stood for good fortune–but thanks to Kim France, founding editor-in-chief of Lucky Magazine, this five letter word has come to represent one of the fashion industry’s leading publications and the go-to shopping guide for the fashion obsessed everywhere. Kim’s passion for writing lead her to pursue a writing career after college, landing her roles at 7 Days, Elle, Sassy, Spin, and New York to name a few. Following this list of awe-worthy accomplishments, Kim turned her vision for a fashion and commerce focused publication into Lucky Magazine. Despite criticism from within the magazine industry, Kim stayed true to her vision. Her commitment to her audience soon made Lucky one of Condé Nast’s most successful ventures. After more than a decade as editor-in-chief at LuckyKim left the magazine and returned to her love of writing. Kim is now the writer behind the blog Girls of a Certain Age, where she shares her whit and wisdom as a fashion insider.

From working as an editorial assistant for just $14,000, to becoming the editor-in-chief of Lucky, Kim France has changed the face of the fashion magazine industry and is living proof that tenacity can turn dreams into reality.

Full name: Kim France

Age: 48
Current title/company: Writer/editor and blogger for Girls of a Certain Age
Educational background: BA from Oberlin College

What was your first job out of college and how did you land that position?
I was an editorial assistant at 7 Days, which was a New York City weekly that existed only for a couple of years in the late 80s. It was edited by Adam Moss, who is now the editor in chief of New York Magazine, and a lot of people got their start there. I always wanted to be a writer, and had contributed to both my college and high school newspapers. I had gotten an internship at a weekly paper in Seattle—where I had moved after graduation on a bit of a whim. But I really missed all my friends in New York. A friend’s mom had a friend who was an editor at 7 Days, which was just launching, and said they were looking for assistant-level hires. I sent in my resume and clips, and flew to New York for an interview. I got hired for $14,000 a year and was thrilled out of my mind.

Prior to founding Lucky you wrote for Elle, Sassy, Spin, New York, and many others. Take us on a brief career bio. How did you transition from those staff writer and editor roles to where you are today?
After 7 Days, I was hired as staff writer at Sassy, which was completely fantastic and probably the most fun I’ve had at a job. Three of us wrote the whole magazine, so there was no room for stressing over every little word. You just had to crank it out. During Sassy, I started doing a lot of freelance writing as well. To subsidize my really tiny salary, for one, and also as a way for me to write about music, which had become a serious interest. This helped lead to my next job, which was editing the entertainment coverage at Elle. It was great experience working with editor Amy Gross (who is brilliant and went on to serve as editorial director of O for many years).

Then the editor of New York at the time, Kurt Andersen, offered me a job not dissimilar to the one I’d had at Elle, but with more of an opportunity to write. When he left New York, I quit because I thought it might be fun to write full-time—something I’d never tried. I got an editor-at-large gig at Spin and was writing tons of other places too. It was really stressful, though, because unless you have at least one really sizable contract—and Spin wasn’t paying the big bucks—you are always hustling for work as a freelancer. About two years in, Conde Nast came knocking and I got hired to do Lucky.

When it began, Lucky was a revolutionary concept. What inspired you to start a fashion publication that was so focused on commerce? Tell us about the process of starting a magazine: getting funding/investors, hiring staff, graphics, recruiting advertisers, etc.
The idea to start a magazine about shopping belonged to Conde Nast. James Truman, who was the company’s editorial director at the time, called me in for a meeting, and it turned out we had a lot of the same ideas about what could make an idea like that work. The notion wasn’t to make a magazine based on commerce, but to make one that truly put the reader first: at the time, making sure featured items were actually available to the reader was not a priority at fashion titles, which bugged me. Shouldn’t that be the whole point?

I was hired for four months to work on a handful of dummy pages with a bare-bones freelance staff, and if the big bosses liked it, we’d get permission to create a test issue. If that was a success, we’d launch. I worked with an outside graphic design team on the test issue’s look; when we got the green light, I had my own art department. Hiring a staff was fun: we looked for people who loved shopping, but were not absolute slaves to fashion: Lucky was about having fun with clothes and dressing yourself as opposed to just freaking out over what the same handful of big names sent down the runways each season. As for ads, Lucky had its own publisher—as all Conde Nast titles did at that time—who was responsible for that side of the business.

What is the most important thing you learned when starting Lucky that has carried on throughout your career?
Never be afraid to admit what you don’t know.

Lucky quickly became a huge success, with circulation now well over one million copies, yet it initially received quite a bit of criticism from within the magazine industry. How was it to be the editor at the beginning? How did you respond to that criticism and stay true to your vision?
The one thing that always helped me stay true to Lucky’s vision was that from quite early on, the readers were with us, and totally got it. If all of Lucky’s various critics within the media didn’t like what we were about, that was something I could live with. As for answering my critics, I’m pretty strict about not letting myself do that. You almost never come off well.

What kind of skills or characteristics do you think were vital to your success as both as a founder of a new magazine and as an editor?
Decisiveness is a really big one. Changing up the concept for pages, or sections, or the look the entire book mid-stream is always part of a startup. But taking the time to make certain that once a decision gets made in your office, it stays made is huge.

What was the best part of your job as editor-in-chief of Lucky? What was the most challenging?
The best part by far was assembling and working with such a fun, smart, and collaborative staff. Fashion magazines can be real minefields, and knowing that I’d created an environment where people looked forward to coming to work is something I’m very proud of. The most challenging part was dealing with the growing pressure to find outside sources of revenue for the title once ad page revenue started declining, which is an industry-wide challenge at the moment. Magazine editors should get to do what they do best, which is be editors. Increasingly they’re being called upon to be businesspeople too. The revenue models are much fresher and intuitive online, and now I’m having fun creating my little business. But at the time, in that context, it was just a huge drag.

Over the years Lucky’s online media presence has grown significantly. Are there any unique challenges that come with online media when compared to print media? What challenges did you experience as an editor through this transition?
Helping magazines find their identity in a crowded digital environment is beyond challenging. I’m thrilled it’s no longer part of my job!

The magazine industry is demanding and highly competitive. How did you respond to being in such a cutthroat environment? Do you have any advice for someone who hopes to pursue a career in this industry?
As a writer, I learned early on that it’s a good idea to write put editors first, and publications second. If you’re doing a story for your dream magazine, but your top editor is arbitrary and indecisive, or puts you through endless and pointless rewrites, you’re not going to wind up with a story you’re proud of. The same thing goes for staff jobs: the top magazines have some of the deadliest office cultures. Having said this, I feel compelled to add that this is not a uniformly cutthroat industry—plenty of titles have very normal, non-dysfunction work environments. It’s not all The Devil wears Prada!

Given your demanding career and schedule, how did you find time for balance?
I created no balance for myself while I was at Lucky! I was deeply pathetic at it. That’s a big reason why I chose a new endeavor that is fully portable. Also, the hours are mine to set, which makes balance infinitely easier to maintain.

Since leaving Lucky you started the website, Girl of a Certain Age. Is there a story behind the name? What motivated you to start your site?
Girls of a Certain Age is a play on the phrase Women of a Certain Age, which is used to describe women who are no longer middle aged, but not quite ready to be classified as senior citizens. Girls of a Certain Age, by comparison, are suspended somewhere between their younger adult years and middle age. We know we’re grown ups and we take our grown up responsibilities seriously. But the youth culture that shaped who we are remains a part of us. And we haven’t all defaulted to mom jeans.

I started it because I wanted to have a little fun with writing but I knew I wasn’t interested in doing any magazine projects just yet. The idea of something involving the web interested me, and I liked the DIY aspect of starting out with a blog. So many really successful web destinations—Man Repeller, GoFug Yourself, Cup of Jo— all started small and built big, loyal followings just by being true to their creator’s personal visions. I know from experience that’s not necessarily the name of the game when you’ve got somebody else’s money backing you.

Girls of a Certain Age covers everything from home decor to feminism. Can you tell us who you have in mind when writing? Who are you hoping to reach?
I’m thinking of women, like me, who came of age in the late 70s and early 80s, which was a time when rock and roll, new wave and punk all intersected, and our society was beginning to see a shift as far as how women were viewed in the popular culture. But I know that women who are both younger and older enjoy the blog, and I think that’s in part because I’m writing from the perspective of a former fashion insider, but one who always considered herself an outsider’s insider, if that makes sense. I want the reader to feel included, and like I care about her taste and her thoughts, which I do. And like if we met, like we’d be friends.

What is a typical day like for you in your current role as a blogger?
I write in the late afternoon and evenings, and leave the day to chill out or kick around the city a bit and check out stores to see what looks interesting. I’ve got a little café around the corner where I’ll take my laptop and work, because I know the staff and some of the regulars, and a girl craves human contact from time to time! My schedule works out so that Fridays I don’t really need to be at the computer all day, so that’s when I schedule my lunches and meetings.

Other than writing and managing the site, what other projects have you been involved with since leaving Lucky?
Even though I swore I was done with magazines for good, I have accepted a couple of writing assignments recently.

Considering all you’ve done, do you have any goals you’re still striving to achieve?
I’d like to write a book. And to train my dog not to jump up on guests when they walk in the door.

What advice do you have for aspiring writers and journalists?
Do the grunt work without complaint and people will notice you, and think you’re a hardworking sort who could be capable of bigger things. Make like you should immediately be writing 1000-word features or styling shoots, and you will endear yourself to no one.

Best moment of your career so far?
There hasn’t been any one big whopper, but a lot of smaller, stellar moments: seeing my byline in Rolling Stone typeface for the first time. Having former Sassy readers tell me how the magazine changed their lives (it happens to this day). Looking to my left when I was standing offstage at an Amnesty International concert in Paris and realizing Bruce Springsteen was right next to me. Lucky reaching one million circulation. And best of all, recently, being profiled in the New York Times after I launched Girls of a Certain Age!

What advice would you give to your 23-year-old self?
Never say never.

 

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  • http://laurenmaxwell.blogspot.com/ Lauren Maxwell

    What a beautiful and inspiring story! This makes me like Lucky even more to see some of the substance behind it. :)

  • Jennifer Priestley

    “I’d like to write a book. And to train my dog not to jump up on guests when they walk in the door.” Amazing. Great interview!

  • Donnarino

    Lucky was amazing under Kim’s direction and staff. I really enjoyed it. Unfortunately that’s no longer the case. It’s just been retooled too much and is no longer relevant to me.

  • Michelle Hosie

    Great interview.  I also want that Sorry Joey Ramone sign :-)

  • Nothenberg

    Amazing and inspiring story.  

  • Amanda Carroll

    I’m obsessed with Kim France and her blog. Its truly original and something I look forward to reading every day.

    • Yulia

      Totally agree! Love her writing and her fashion sense!

  • Michelle

    So inspiring! I love it.

  • Amanda Risius

    I have been a Lucky reader since I was in the 6th grade (I am now a junior in college!) Hearing her story is inspiring and it’s interesting to learn about the career paths people take. I always find that part the most insightful for some reason. Great questions!
    hammerandheels.blogspot.com

  • srf

    Beaming and choked up… really really really great. oxxoox

  • Emma Gwillim

    A great example of passion evolving.  It always appears to happen overnight for so many people and, the real story, is often of persistence, tenacity, heartfelt passion.  Love this feature!

  • marjorie ingall

    Kim’s meeting a real need with this blog. There are very few sites (or magazines, for that matter) for women 40+ that address how to look playful and chic without looking tragically like you think you’re still 22. 

  • eve france

    terrific article

  • eve france

    what a fabulous article.  I am proud to know u.  Howard

  • mims

    I hold Kim France (and Leslie Knope) partially responsible for  getting me back onto springboard diving at age 51.  I guess if I win a gold medal in Masters diving i will have to melt it and give her a fraction.  Who says we have to sit back and observe life now we have passed a certain age? 

    Anyhow, she is the perfect poster child for girls of a certain age and so nice to have this glimpse into her digs and her past worklife.  Love the white wood in the black pit of a fireplace. Love the multiple poofs next to that awesome velveteen brownishpurple easy chair and tribal rug.  The dog is adorable too. 

  • Amy

    Kim France—you are amazing!

  • Amy

    Oh I forgot to add, I discovered Sassy magazine, when I was 19 or 20, living in a small town working as a DJ…………and I loved getting every issue! I wish I still had them…….:)

  • http://www.ninaforrest.com/ Nina Forrest

    I’m 66 years old and am following my dream of creating a handmade jewelry business. I still say Never say Never! 

  • Mary Cotter

    Yeah Kim! As a 50-year-old resistant to mom jeans, I adore what you do and beg  you to keep on doing it. I really look forward to your blog. I also love that you are an out loud and proud feminist, which is, sadly, a rare thing to find.

  • Michelle

    I’m 27 and I read Girls of a Certain Age every day! I’m such a fan and find it so relevant, funny and honest. Thanks for posting this article. So cool to get to know Kim a bit better. 

  • Joanna Wissinger

    Love Girls of a Certain Age! I missed Kim’s voice at Lucky SO much and was thrilled to find her blog. Now I’m a bit obsessed with reading it every day, but hey, that’s not so bad, right?

  • vivien

    Kim – you are awesome! Love you, love your blog!  I would be first in line to buy your book.  Keep on keeping on!

  • Beth

    Ever since I discovered gofaca, I obsessively check it during the day to see if its been updated.

    Kim, this is the easiest way to stop your dog from jumping on strangers. When you get to the door, make sure you are between guest and dog. Turn arou d before you open the door and sternly say no, with finger raised. Repeat as necessary. Insist you are between dog and guest as you welcome guest. After a few tries, you and dog will get the hang of it! Good luck!

  • Aunt Gelta

    The world needs more Kim France!!!

  • imadime

    i love her home … it doesn’t look like she tried to hard & showcases her personal style to perfection.

  • Genevieve Albers

    Kim France, you’re name has been fixed on my brain since my Sassy-obsessed days in the 90s. I still recall a little blurb about “Kim France Pants,” to be worn under very short things. Lucky later became my bible, and I loved it. Thrilled to have found gofaca, and listen in on your thoughts. By the way – you look a little like Elizabeth Perkins, in her “Big” era, not in her Celia Hodes era. I admire you very much.

  • http://twitter.com/whYpoli ygriega

    Great story, and I am such a typical Lucky subscriber, haha! Great to meet the woman behind it. Her home decor is so chic

  • http://www.rebeccaatwood.com/ Becca Atwood

    What a great interview! I love ending with ‘Never say never.’

  • JenM

    LOVE this Q&A. Kim France rocks. And now I’m going to check out your blog. Because if you like Kim, we just might have a few more things in common…

  • thepearshape

    This is an incredibly inspiring story. Kim is definitely an inspiration to those of us still searching for that passion that makes us happy. Her career is an inspiration

    Lauren
    thepearshape.com

  • http://www.facebook.com/robyn.froman.3 Robyn Froman

    Glad to find you! Where may I ask did you find your lovely mirrored console?

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